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[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

What makes a friend a friend?

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[everythingmetal.livejournal.com]

I...don't know?

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

Well, are they people that you hang out with, people you confide in, people you trust, people you get drunk with? You have to have some basis for considering some people friends and some people just people you know.

[everythingmetal.livejournal.com]

No, see, I really don't know. The guys are just my bandmates, Ofdensen's just the guy who makes sure my life goes all...you know...smooth and shit. And you and Lilith are the only people I'd consider 'friends'.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

And you don't know why you consider us friends? Maybe it's because you've fucked us. You could be getting the warm and fuzzies like a big ol girl. Sex is special. *teases a little* Naw I'm kidding. I'm honored that you consider me a friend even if your answer of "I don't know" is completely useless to me. *gives him a hug*

[everythingmetal.livejournal.com]

*awkward backpat/hug-thing* I don't got many friends. Don't care for 'em. I guess...I mean...friends deal with a lot of shit and give advice and listen.

...The guys do that, but they kinda have to. We have, like, contracts and stuff. Works better if we only sort of hate each other.

Did you see Lilith's new douchebag fiance?

[unusualtricks.livejournal.com]

I'd like to think trust.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

((ooc: Oh this aught to be interesting. She's never met the Joker but knows of him because of Rachel and Harvey. I'd just like to apologize in advance.))

You trust people?

[unusualtricks.livejournal.com]

((ooc: This will be fun! :P))

Me? Oh no no no I don't trust anyone, but people? *Licks lips.* people like to think trust makes a friend and a person what they really are.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

Trust doesn't make a friend but makes you a friend. Them honoring that trust is what makes them one not that you'd understand that. You're just a sad little clown that's never had a friend. *makes a fake pouty face and give him an emo tear with her finger*

[unusualtricks.livejournal.com]

I never said I was sad?

[star-core.livejournal.com]

You like them, I suppose. It's simple.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

Do you like anyone you're aren't friends with?

[star-core.livejournal.com]

What do you mean? It doesn't go both ways.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm just of the thought that friendship is a little more than just liking someone.

[lostinthefog]

You're there for them and vice versa.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

So someone you confide in or is physically there to hang out with or just someone that comes to your rescue?

[lostinthefog]

To me, it's mostly about mutual trust. Friends are people who I can tell things I wouldn't talk about with anybody else. Who I'd ask for advice or help.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

I think so too.

[cjsullivan.livejournal.com]

Someone you can trust, who's loyal and you like to spend time with. Having things in common is good, but not always necessary, I guess. For me, it's knowing I can call them at 2 in the morning if I'm in a crisis, and know that they will be there for me, and vice versa. Does that help any?

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

Actually, it's incredibly helpful. Thanks Chloe. *smiles*

[cjsullivan.livejournal.com]

You're very welcome. :)

[magicanyway.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure anymore. I though.. well. Nevermind. What brought this on, babe?

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

I talked to Rachel. I wanted to see if there was a way to mend things between you guys. She said you misconstrued what your "friendship" was and she was pissed because she didn't feel like you had the right to demand anything out of her. Not even trust. So I started thinking about what it is to really be a friend. Rachel and I aren't friends. We never really were. I'm not sad about it because neither of us invested much into the relationships. I've shared more than she ever has but for selfish reasons. I never sought her out to talk to her but if she happened to be there I'd talk to her. She never sought me out and chose to keep her shit to herself. I don't think that really makes us friends. I think that's more like close acquaintances like work friends. Hell, everything I know about her I heard through Pepper. Now Pep and I are real friends. I've gone to her. She's come to me. We share. It's balanced. Pepper and Rachel are real friends. They are balanced but she can be a therapist, philanthropist, and acquaintance to us but by withholding herself she's not a friend. And no amount of guilt or tantrums or demands or even begging will change that. I'm sorry.

[magicanyway.livejournal.com]

ooc- nevermind! Found it!

I didn't demand anything out of Rachel that wasn't giving to other people. That's what really hurt me, that there must be something wrong with me or else she would have included me in her life just like everyone else. I don't know what's different about me, maybe I'm just not, I don't know, sophisticated enough to be worthy of her trust or something? I don't know. She told me that she gave her all to the friendship, because she listened to me when I was having therapy problems. That was great of her, it was, but it doesn't mean anything if she doesn't trust me the way I trusted her. It was one sided. I just... I thought we were close. I went out of my way to see her, to make sure she was okay, and knew someone was thinking about her even when I didn't know why things were bad. She was my Rachel and I was her Andy. I suppose that mean much. I told her I'd respect her boundaries and I will, but I can't invest myself in our friendship the way I did before. I'll be there for her if she needs it, but nothing else. I'd love to be her friend, but you're right, it's not real friendship. *hugs her* You're so great to me, Laurie. For doing all this for me. I love you so much.

[possessingbadge.livejournal.com]

((ooc: It's in her voicemail under Andy and Rachel's talk. Very hard to read BTW. I read to the part where Andy told Rachel that he thought he was in love with her and gave her a rose and everything and Lauren just pouted in my head. I'm not allowed to read it again. LOL She doesn't know about it and I think it's better that way. She can live with being blissfully ignorant.))

Well, some of those people she's known a very long time. It would be like her asking you to put her on the same level as Adrian. That part I understand. It was all the her Andy, your Rachel stuff and letting you think you guys were friends that pissed me off.

You know, if she wants to close herself off that's fine. Some people need to protect themselves. She's had a lot of really shitty things happen to her all at once. She'd have to be crazy or stupidly naive to put herself right back out there. But I've seen the way you guys talk to each other. I thought you guys were closer. I thought you'd known each other longer. It wasn't just you thinking the relationship was a friendship. She let you think it was and then she turned around and told me that you just made a bigger deal of it than it was. You didn't know her and if she knew you at all she would know how sensitive you are. She would have known how hurt you would be about all this stuff.

*Hugs him back* I love you too.