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Do they? Or do people just keep redefining what a civil liberty is?

Civil liberties are always defined and redefined according to the times, in my experience. I think I speak more om their availability or the lack thereof during times of war.

Isn't that just another example of redefinition? War isn't a simple situation like, say, stubbing one's toe. War changes the very societies that take part in it. So maybe they're just being redefined, as opposed to being made unavailable.

I am all too familiar with how war changes the world we live in, great Athena. *nods respectfully*

I have also been part of those troupes, units, legions, etcetera, who had to enforce martial law. The rights are there, ready to return, once martial law has been lifted.

*nods back* Just Athena's fine. One of these days I'm going to have to get a disguise. Maybe one of those masks the guys in comics wear.

So are you trying to say that it's removal as opposed to redefinition because the rights can return?

I have a feeling that I agree with you, but we have different concepts of what "coming and going" means. Either way, I hope you don't mind a little friendly discussion.

Athena it is then.

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Currently, I am Marius Sulla.

Though saying that only will take some doing. Though dedicated to Ares long before my first death, I have the same belief as many Romans did. Pray to them all, it can't hurt. *looks a little sheepish - a rarity*

The rights can return yes, and my apologies. It was my poor choice of words, trying to cram my thoughts into six words.

I do not mind at all.

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Okay, Marius. Nice, classic name.

*laughs* You were right. We certainly enjoyed as much prayer as possible.

No apologies necessary, I understand the limit of the venue. Maybe you'd like to clarify your thoughts now that you're no longer bound by word limit?

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I do try my best to continue the habit.

I think what inspired me was a conversation I overheard the other day in a local coffee shop. One of the gentleman in question, was comparing the current climate in America as a police state or some other nonsense.

The freedoms they have now, even during times such as martial law, compared to elsewhere or at any other time in history is mind blowing, and they're acting like spoiled children ...the two in the coffee shop, that is.

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That's Americans for you. Their country is two hundred years old and they think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Generally speaking, of course.

But I suppose if you consider the freedoms they did have, and what's been taken away in the last few years, one could see their point.

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True.

I should not be so hard on them, I suppose. Maybe if I hadn't lived through the ideals that they are borrowed from, I’d be more …*searches for right word* lenient.

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Really? Which ideals are those?

I watched the Republic fall in its final stages as it became an empire and stayed with said empire until long after its demise

Granted, only a select few had any real privilege, but even the lowest Roman had freedoms unparalleled in any other part of the world at that time.